1st. I never said I was 100% gonna join your team, I don't say that to any team, unless i am 100% sure. What i did say is that it was a possibillity to join, because Lions/BB was going inactive. Thats 2 totally different things. And like I said yesterday; after I never joined your team, you and poker got mad at me, and talked random shit about me in public, which I didn't like.. You disrespected me public infront of others, therefore i had nothing else to say to you.. I never had anything to say to you after this episode, so i guess it's not my fault after all is it? You was rage because i didn't join your team, which is totally unbelievable because this is a game..

2nd. I still thinks you are immature only after this episode last night. I have never looked at you as a bad person, even though what you did public. I said to snaky and others i have no problem with you. But after your raging bullshit yesterday, I find you immature.

Instead of ending the discussion, you only want to make it bigger, and i see no point in that. I can say it again: I dont have a problem with you, i dont care if you are in the team, it doesnt matter. But obviously you hate the thought about me joining, because you are making this HUGE drama out of nothing.

Furthermore, I don't have anything to say to you asserich, because all you want to do is making drama of something i dont understand, and good luck to you. About what happens next is up leaders..

I'm making it to a huge thing? Who is the one that contacted the leaders about this? My god, why don't you just admit that I'm right.

I never said I was 100% gonna join your team

Yeah, easy to say it after....You can interpret that now however you want.

after I never joined your team, you and poker got mad at me, and talked random shit about me in public

Ofcourse we got a lil mad, because you tricked us twice. Secondly we never flamed you, or insulted you personally even in any language, I'm not an unfair guy to lie now.

You disrespected me public infront of others

If you see disrespecting as presenting your faults to the public I agree.

You was rage because i didn't join your team, which is totally unbelievable because this is a game..

You can't tell me you never get mad when you are playing any game, seriously.

But after your raging bullshit yesterday, I find you immature.

You say I say bullshit? Insult number one. I'm immature? Ok I have to accept your opinion in this case, but still it's insulting No°2

Furthermore, I don't have anything to say to you asserich, because all you want to do is making drama of something i dont understand, and good luck to you

Alright, good luck man. I make the drama because I care for the Team, and I want to make sure that there are only people which are confortable to all others around.

I don't like to be the policeman but as a leader I have to react and and take a decision (a bit later 'cause I need to know some more thoughts of my teammates about this)...

@Bisou: on est suffisamment forts pour pas se laisser couler par un conflit comme ça entre 2 joueurs^^. Les 2 s'aiment pas certes mais aucun des 2 nous prend en hôtage

@Asserich & Wold: Vek and me invited you together on msn yesterday to let you both express and arguing a last time and maybe make peace which in fact didn't happen...

We were neutral but there are a couple of "facts" against you Ass, sorry to say you this :
- On msn you never expected to find as a solution to make peace and maybe to both admit your faults (if there are). Instead of this you there were 2 solutions from your point of view: making Wold say the "truth" and admit that he is wrong/lying OR be kicked out of the team 'cause of your honor, 'cause you don't want to make the frendships in this team down.
- You tested Wold on this topic with your "welcome" message and I see this as a provocation and before all a proof that making peace is not one of your possible solutions. It was the same attitude that we noticed yesterday on msn with him.
- You'are still makin drama and making some clashes more and more. I know you're a die hard but there are some serious and maturity sometimes that you need to have when it deals with speaking with a "rival", even if you don't like him
- We can say that you almost have been inactive for the whole time since you are here: except 2 or 3 minor matches you unfortunatly not much played with us..You prefered to stream your ESL Liga (I understand because you're paid for it^^) but once it's over no come back. You played much more the TM² competitions and suddenly you react at Wold's application.
Btw yesterday you told me about a 2v2 TM² Cup that you're currently taking part in and that will compromize your 1st ESL match of this season with us
- I don't know who is really in fact both of you (I both see you as skilled, fun and active players) but atm Wold showed many things to us i a short period: playing often with us on TS, training (or playing for fun) with us, active on ESL site and many other points that I forgot...

I'm not going to defend myself again....I put too much effort into this whole situation the last day. If you feel like it, tell me what to do now:

Kick me, or let me be here, I'm fine with both.

Omagad it become insane!
I (we) love you both and think you'r awesome guys!
I think since you know us, you understood that we are more a family than a simple team. We are proud to say that our main strong is our friendship and complicity.
I think that no-one of you have to be kick, because it's contrary about our habits to fire ppl cuz of a conflict...
As said bus, every problem has its solution and we'r gonna fine some. BUT you 2 have to show that you want it!

Guys plz, be nice and show that be 1pure is be in a family, if there are conflicts, our team'll have any sense...

Je soutiens bisou maintenant, les étrangers sont source de problèmes xD

Call me childish, or immature or whatever, I'm not ready to cooperate with Wold anymore, he had several chances to prove I'm wrong, and he didn't use his chance at all.

Les gars si vous ne voulez pas d'étrangers, il faut que tout le monde soit actif ou fasse l'esl avec nous, au lieu de nous laisser dans la merde a 6.
Guys, if i understand everything, this is a KID story!! Just for Dyn team... IT'S THE PAST! Please, Look for the future !
Don't forgot, it's just a game, don't be like that in a game. Asserich, i understand your point of view, because you play trackmania with your heart, and you're an ambitious player!
For me, both of you have to find a solution. We want Asseriech and Wold in 1puRe. Be mature!

And asseriech, "Kick me, or let me be here, I'm fine with both." WTF IS THAT? If you're not 1puRe anymore, you'll be fine? Cool...

It's ment to force a decision, because something HAS to happen. I'm not saying I don't care about this Team, but I won't argue about anything anymore, because if I'm honest even Snaky said wrong things aswell.

Oh and: Even if it is the past: You can't make it unhappened and you also can't just look away aswell.

Well imo this doesn't deserve this load of discussion :/ things happened, just live with it already, you both have different opinions about this event but well... can't you guys be cool ? o.o

You wouldn't even look at my answer, if I would write one....

Ok so if I understaind, you prefer leave / to be kick of the team if we accept wold?
Wold you realy can't apologise? Have another discussion? Please guys, u are enough old to explain yourself...
But finaly, I can understaind that you "don't like" wold, we (saphire) don't like ppl too on tm and we'll never find solution to stop the conflict^^.
I would like to say : "as you like guys: sorry for you wold, but we can't accept your application cuz ass don't like you" OR "sorry ass but wold is more active ig than you and can realy help us because he is strong and nice"...

This situation sucks, realy

I'm sorry ass, but i realy want wold to go with us. You'r not so active in the game and I don't realy think that you are a big part of our family... Wold ofen come on TS, plays with us etc... The team needs to go forward, wwe need players like him!
I'm realy sad to say that, but i think that the others thinks the same thing.
I don't want to kick you, it's just my opinion.

Good night guys

Ps: Ass I still love u, and wold too... Whatever the finish of this application

Guys I just want to tell you, I love all of you....well probably as you may noticed I don't really love Wold, but the rest has allways been nice to me. I've really enjoyed my time here, and if you prefer Wold to me, that's ok, that's a typical reaction of the leaders, if they want to create a better Team. You were definetly the best Clan I ever had, and yes I prefer getting kicked, instead of playing in the same Team as Wold.

I still love you, and will allways love u, no matter which decision you are going to do!

So Wold an me agreed to a contract, which says he pays me 25€ per month, for forgiving him.

That's what I wanted to hear . Here I recognize you Ass

I was really disapointed when I saw that it was impossible to reconcile (I was reticent to "kick" someone because we have never kicked anybody ) but now I see that the reason came to your mind <3
I'll speak to you bitches today about that :p

LOOL this was always about money ^^ I guess Vek is part of it...

That was definetly the achievement of Vek indeed

Batard, sale merde de Vek

Perso je vois pas pk on kik un gars de chez nous pour un gars qui n'est pas chez nous... Mais bon c'est votre choix...

Où est ce que t'as vu qu'on la kické?...

Non pas qu'on kik mais qu'on se pose la question...

OMG ...
I do just read that now !
Dufuq is that shit, seriously ?????
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J'en suis sur le cul (sans faire d'allusions à la traduction en anglaise)
No(r)way, welcome on our forum wold.

Me point of view : just work together to become better and that's all. Guys, show somethings different.
Ps (sans allusion à l'éléction du jour) : Please speak a bit more french.

wtf dudes :O

Wold n'a pas eu sa couleur perso sur le fofo ni son grade !!
Je demande rectification

Pour le grade j'ai une petite idée : Policier norvegien
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Omg Wold didn't recieve his color and his rank on the forum :O
admin, plz do the necessary XD

This ranking 'll be nice : norwegian cop

hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe <3

Je n'ai pas de grade non plus !

Me too

Moi non plus alors que je suis le "golden boy"